How We Found Out About COINTELPRO (2014)

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46 points | by bryanrasmussen 2 hours ago

5 comments

  • caseysoftware 1 hour ago
    > On June 25, 1971, one Robert Hardy appeared at the FBI office in Camden, New Jersey and told agents of a plan by several of his friends to raid the draft board in that city, remove the files, and destroy them. Hardy was one of the gang, but changed his mind. He was immediately hired as an informer and told to return to the gang and report on their plans, which he did. On August 22, the FBI was waiting when the group struck, and twenty-eight were arrested. The trial began on February 5, 1973. Hoover died in May 1972, but his ghost must have suffered a shock as Hardy changed his mind again and became a witness for the defense. He told the truth, namely that the FBI had used him as a provocateur, and that the burglary could not have taken place without him and the burglary tools that the FBI had supplied.

    What are the odds the FBI has done this more recently than 1971?

    • rekttrader 57 minutes ago
      It is a fair assumption that they do this regularly, politics aside one should ask why were there so many FBI agents at the Jan 6 debacle and why didn’t they do more to quell the violence. The origins of Ruby Ridge and Waco are fine examples of insanity. Nevertheless inciting crime and capturing bad guys seems like a game they like playing.
    • stinkbeetle 20 minutes ago
      That's a dangerous conspiracy theory.
      • therobots927 11 minutes ago
        No self respecting liberal would believe such a thing.
  • anonymars 1 hour ago
    "Why don't Americans protest?", everyone wonders...
    • kelseyfrog 50 minutes ago
      I had a conversation about this with my French teacher a few months ago

      It was striking how different our outlooks were on the effectiveness of protests. Her position was that together, she and her fellow protesters _could_ enact change. When I look around, the stench of preconsigned defeat permeates the space. We've lived in it for so long that we've become blind to it. We've learned to be helpless.

      Not to mention, when a fresh face inevitably proposes large scale action, the responses always include FUD about needing to solve the poverty issue first so that participants can even attend such action. The end result is that it's stopped at the idea stage, nothing changes, and six months later a new freah face will repeat the cycle.

      Part of the issue is that without social safety nets, much of the public is afraid that missing a week to a month of work will guarantee them homelessness.

      • pixelready 17 minutes ago
        I believe this is the intended effect of maintaining some level of homelessness and unemployment in American policy decisions. Full employment and suffering reduction through a strong safety net are the correct moral imperatives, but they reduce the leverage of a central authority. You can see whose priorities win out.

        I think there is a soft self-destruction happening among millennials and beyond in the US and similar societies. They have been so worn down by living in a system that refuses to invest properly in them that they are taking the fatalist route of simply refusing to participate in the building of a future.

        Limited procreation, disengaging from politics or mindlessly bandwagoning demagogues, deaths of despair, etc… it’s not universal but the trend lines are certainly worrying.

      • antonymoose 27 minutes ago
        I feel like, historically, protests have beared fruit in America for leftist / progressive causes. Everything from Suffragettes and Civil Rights / anti-Vietnam to the Floyd protests of the modern day. Maybe they didn’t overthrow an entire government but the marked forward progress of each one is clear.
        • asveikau 17 minutes ago
          I feel there is currently a bit of of internalized propaganda about protests being stupid or worse. Witness any cause which involves protesting by blocking the street. You get an army of internet trolls talking up the idea that this is somehow evil.

          In the civil rights era, events like crossing bridges on foot were a key feature, done by people like Martin Luther King. In the modern era, if you see a protest on the golden gate bridge as an example, they'll be called terrorists and people will advocate for violence against them.

    • rhelz 18 minutes ago
      Can't speak for everybody, but maybe it has something do with hundreds of thousands of us being laid off, and we're just too busy trying not to go under.
  • Natfan 1 hour ago
    i find it interesting that the later actions that Davidson did would be considered "terrorism" under the UK government's legal framework regarding Palestine Action
  • beeburrt 58 minutes ago
    It evolved into gangstalking via fusion centers contrary to Wikipedia's claim that it's mAsS dElUsIoN which is obviously false to anyone who's done more than a cursory look into it. Look up NSA whistleblower Karen Stewart and also watch the tragic video of Myron May who gives an accurate description of their tactics. Ask me how I know.
    • rekttrader 54 minutes ago
      Please share, new rabbit holes are the best rabbit holes.
      • superb-owl 37 minutes ago
        This is not a good rabbit hole
        • therobots927 3 minutes ago
          Thanks for the heads up. It’s always nice to know the feds are looking out for us.
  • java-man 1 hour ago
    Nothing changed.