.name Grandfathered

(neil.fraser.name)

196 points | by p4bl0 1 hour ago

12 comments

  • giancarlostoro 41 minutes ago
    > After a long and expensive battle, news just dropped that Verisign is retracting its plan to terminate 22,000 domain names and email redirects. Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely.

    This was what I figured SHOULD happen when they did this. Allow existing customers to keep renewing, but nobody new allowed, if a tld frees up over time, reclaim it completely and sell it off.

    What they were proposing should really be illegal...

  • kwanbix 37 minutes ago
    Why would they even want to close it? It is probably close to 0 cost tot hem. Or am I wrong?
    • lambda 6 minutes ago
      It works differently than pretty much every other TLD, which means it's different code paths to support.

      Many registrars don't support the unique 3rd level domain setup for .name, so it can be hard to find registrars that properly support it.

      There's also an associate email redirect service, which is unique to .name and probably costs money to run and maintain.

      It's probably easier to support, and more valuable to sell second level .name domains.

      Pretty terrible that they were considering just dropping tens of thousands of customer registrations however.

    • clickety_clack 27 minutes ago
      My thoughts also, but maybe they can make more from a few sites like baby.name than they can from personal domains.
  • derhuerst 1 hour ago
    previous discussion on the predecessor post, 69 days ago, 547 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550772
  • Tepix 1 hour ago
    Vive la résistance!

    Resistance is not futile.

    • cobbzilla 53 minutes ago
      > to my lawyers Jan, Flip and Diégo who threw the book at ICANN

      Resistance with a strong case and competent lawyers is not futile.

      • dataflow 46 minutes ago
        And with a lot of money to burn.
  • a1o 46 minutes ago
    How does one register a domain under .name ? I can’t find info through search because it discards the dot no matter what I try.
    • delecti 42 minutes ago
    • toast0 40 minutes ago
      Same as any gTLD, pick your favorite registrar and they probably support it. Give your registrar money, they'll give the registry money and boom. (more or less)

      When .name was new, you may have needed to contract with the registry directly, it was an early new gTLD and I don't remember if they started with the registry/registrar split or not.

      Afaik, new registrants are not able to register a third level domain, but second level domains have been available for a long time.

    • SahAssar 42 minutes ago
      Available under standard registrars that offer many TLDs, like inwx.com: https://www.inwx.com/en/domain/check?domain=testtest123.name...
      • peesem 38 minutes ago
        but which support the actual third-level domains? for example, my last name is already taken as a .name domain by verisign, what if i want my firstname.lastname.name domain?
        • mercurywells 24 minutes ago
          You'd have to try to find the contact that owns lastname.name and work out a private deal - you won't get ICANN protections though.
    • lambda 23 minutes ago
      Did you read the link?

      "Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely."

      They were apparently planning on shutting down the whole TLD. They will be leaving it up for existing registrants, but not allowing new registrations.

      • ksala_ 18 minutes ago
        No, they were not planning that. This is only about 3rd level domain as the paragraph you quoted says. Every other TLD don't sell those (afaik). Normally "someone.name" would be a domain, and they would own all the subdomains. .name allowed you to register "one.someone.name" and "two.someone.name" as completely separated domains with completely separated owners. I understand why they should grandfather in existing domains but this was just madness.
        • lambda 16 minutes ago
          Ah, fair enough. I kind of thought that third level domain registration was the whole point of the .name TLD, so I was interpreting it as shutting it down.

          So the weird part then comes in: are all second level domains that have third level registrations now reserved? Do they stop being reserved if the last third level registration expires without being renewed?

          • ksala_ 10 minutes ago
            Good question. Yeah no idea - the email linked in OP says they're going to send a new proposal, I'm assuming it will cover how they're planning to handle it. And I guess that yes blocking second level domains that have a third level already registered is the pragmatic choice.
  • kinabalu76 13 minutes ago
    glad this got resolved, bummer it was thrown into question at all
  • charlieyu1 3 minutes ago
    Good for them. I just wish I could register a new .yu domain…
  • doublepg23 55 minutes ago
    I've had a .name for almost a decade now and was not aware of it's history.

    Shame I didn't register on my lastname .name , I had thought it was a much newer gTLD.

  • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
  • eks391 35 minutes ago
    So glad this happened. When I first heard, I assumed that all the folks wronged would simply be disregarded even though Verisign was blatantly breaking consumer protection laws (I assume. If it wasn't, those laws are incomplete). The fact that Verisign even tried still makes me upset though. It's really annoying what several companies will do as long as their hand isn't forced due to legal or social repercussions
  • jon128 2 minutes ago
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  • dist-epoch 46 minutes ago
    So, turns out Verisign is not the Devil incarnate?
    • cobbzilla 23 minutes ago
      The Devil is no match for a sufficiently talented attorney